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  • sanju
    02-13 03:23 PM
    Why do you want to delete this thread? This is true. The witch hunt has started. Why be scared to say the truth?


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    FYI .. This post is what I received in e-mail few days back.

    I would like to bring to the notice of your readers, editorial committee and leaders of
    the Indian community of a systematic way that (legally) the US Government is practicing
    legal ethnic cleansing of Indians and Chinese and other H-1B visa holders.

    While it is agreeable that the current economic downturn is the worst one has seen.
    It is time to band together with what resources we have and make it thru this perfect
    storm. However, the machinations of a few politicians and the further connivance of the
    USCIS, we are about to see a systematic 'legal ethnic cleansing of Indians and other
    foreign professionals'.

    Leaders of the ethnic Indian community should take up this issue. Leading Indian attorneys
    such as Chugh Firm, Khanna Firm, Sheela Murthy, and leaders like Dr. Romesh Japra and
    Yogi Chugh etc should do something about this with their contacts at the highest levels.

    How is this happening and why is it ethnic cleansing?

    Since 1990's every year several thousands of Indian professionals come to the US. Because of
    delay in processing of their Green Cards a vast majority of them are on H-1B.

    With the current downturn, Sen. Grassley et all have raised such a stink that companies are
    forced to lay off H-1b holders first before they lay off any other US employees. While the US
    employers may not always do this. They are being shamed into revealing how they laid off
    US Citizens before laying off others. Net Net....Indian professionals are being laid off from
    large companies (ofcourse, along with layoffs of US citizens and Green card holders as well).

    Now, having been laid off, H-1b holders are forced to leave the country within 10 days if they
    do not find another job. Now, many are forced to leave the US as they cannot sustain living
    in the US. However, some enterprising few are finding lower paying jobs or are finding so called
    'body shopping companies' to file their H-1b transfer in anticipation of staying around till the
    economy improves and they can find suitable jobs. Here is when the systematic targetting and
    ethnic cleansing is coming to the fore. The USCIS in the past which did not, out of the ordinary
    question such H-1b transfers. is raising Request for Evidence (RFE) from these companies.

    These RFEs are raised in such a way that it is impossible to answer them. They are thus
    not only targetting the H-1b candidates, they are systematically undermining the people
    (companies) who want to help out H-1b candidates out of their predicament of being stranded.

    Imagine living in the US for the past 8 years. Owning a home, then getting in line for the
    Green Card. You are close to getting the green card but because of backlog you only get
    what is called the Employment Authorization Card (EAD). So, you continue to be on H-1b status.
    Then your employer fires you....

    There are two paths here.....Technically, with a EAD card you can get employment anywhere
    with what is called US AC21 Portability.However, AC21 EAD portability comes with the need
    that a person with EAD should have another job with the exact same profile and same salary.
    In this market who is going to give you a job with this exact profile as your old job. The only
    way for a person to stay on 'legally' is to file a backup H-1b.

    Thus a person in the 'last stages' of his green card also actually ends up joining a fresh h-1b
    software professional.

    Now, what will the USCIS do? They will ensure that they find some issue with the RFE response
    provided by the 'body shopping company' and issue a denial of H-1b extension.

    The body shopping companies are trying to be the Raoul Wallenbergs (helping with visa when a
    person is in distress - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raoul_Wallenberg). However, the USCIS will
    ensure that literally hundred thousand Indian and Chinese professionals are kicked out of the
    US. The same professionals who came to US to contribute to its success will now be kicked
    out of US against their wish. The companies who are willing to help them will also be harassed
    in the bargain, some of those companies will be investigated for non-payment of wages, some
    of them will be subjected to USCIS audits for trying to help these helpless people whose lives
    are being uprooted.....I am not in any way saying that lives of US citizens is not being uprooted.
    These are very tough times and there is no reason to pick on the helpless, unrepresented people.

    This is as un-american as it gets. US is famous for its chivalry. Over 5000 lives have been sacrificed
    in Iraq to foster democracy and fairness in that part of the world. This is an un-American as it gets.
    This is a planned lynching and killing of the 'spirit' of the foreign worker who came to US dreaming
    of making it the American dream and participating/contributing to its success.

    What should the USCIS do?

    Given the tough times...They should allow people to stay on in the US as long as another
    employer is willing to keep them in status. They should not question the H-1b applications as
    everyone knows that USCIS can find issues with every single H-1b extension filed right now
    with their respective offices. As someone said - Rejecting a H1b now is like issuing speeding
    tickets at INDY 500. Even the largest companies such as Microsoft and IBM can have their
    H-1b applications rejected by the USCIS with the silliest of excuse.

    What is in it for the USCIS not to do this ethnic cleansing?

    Long term vision for America not just right now. This year the US Embassies in India issued over
    98,000 visas to students from India. These are students who are paying their way thru education
    in the US (a country with the most expensive but best education). If it turns out that US specifically
    targets Indians for 'special h-1b rejection treatment' literally half of them will never aspire to come
    to the US within the next 2 or 3 years.

    Right now the economy is bad, but it will improve: It is a 'perfect storm' right now which is causing
    this downturn. The economy will surely improve in the next few quarters. There will then be new
    sectors of the economy that will boom that will need professionals. There will be enough work by then
    for these H-1b professionals as well as US residents.

    Confident and free people contribute positively:
    If the word spreads that even in bad times this society did not turn on them then the US people
    will be appreciated. But, if the message is, when you are down they will kick you where it
    hurts, then this society will not succeed. Just imagine, there are at least 250,000 (maybe more) people of Indian
    and Asian origin who would end up buying a house if they knew for sure that they could continue
    to live without the fear of being 'ethnically cleansed'. Most Indians and Asians save money and do
    not splurge. Just this measure of confidence will ensure that they will spend money in the US
    economy. Just their contributions will ensure that there is a bump in the housing sector.

    Finally, As they say - "Those who do not learn from history are forced to repeat it". The US
    is perpetrating a betrayal of people who could contribute to its success in the long run. But, what they are
    getting is a form of 'systematic and legally driven ethnic cleansing' - they are being identified and
    driven out of the country which they have loyally served for varying periods of time.....

    God Bless America....God Save America from 'some' of its own people.

    Thanks.





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  • dish
    12-13 10:44 AM
    I sent a letter earlier this year to one of my Senators here in CA regarding my 2001 LC and the result i got was that the senators secretary checked my case with USICS and sent a letter stating that my green card was approved 2003.
    For somebody who is still waiting for LC recruitment instructions this was a total waste of time and money ( donated $5000. to Senator).
    Next week my attorney and i and his other LC DBEC clients are going to try and make an appointment with DOL and see if they will comply.
    Number 1 point we shall pursue is to make a $5000.00 premium processing for all DBEC pending LC and have guranteed adjudication in 120 days for all LC with current PD.
    This way all clients with current PD will obvouisly pay $5000.00 and DBEC can use the extra funds for remaining cases.


    Can you please write in detail what happened with your LC and hou you recieved your green card in 2003. Your experience with DOL, and sentor will make a good story for IV.





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  • makemygc
    07-05 10:56 AM
    Core is putting their time and mmoney and doing this all for everybody

    Pray please tell me what the core did for people stuck in BEC's.
    Even these people contributed and once the dates were made current everybody and I'm sorry to say including the core forgot about them.

    I know I'll be bashed for wrting this and pls dont get offended but I just had to ask.

    Answer me this. God forbid but if you have a cancer and your brother has a malaria and you have just one doctor to treat. Would you ask doctor to treat you first since you have a bigger issue than your brother? No, right.
    Dude, we all are brothers in this mess and everyone deserves to be treated fairly. I agree that core should work to eliminate BEC problem as well as any other opportunity to get any other immediate relief but core has limited resources, very limited funding plus and core needs to work on areas which fixes maximum number of lives here.
    There are around 40000 people stuck in BEC and if 20% of those can join core and contribute, I'm sure that is enough number to allocate resources accordingly. But somehow people has got the wrong idea that IV is not for people stuck in BEC. I've seen similar posts in immigrationportal.com as well.

    Now if IV will work for people who were eligible to file in July or even for people who just filed on Jul 2nd, i'm sure people will come and say that IV is for July 2nd people only. But that is not the case. Any issues/bill/ammendment which can bring some immediate relief should be worked along with our core issues which is retrogression. Once you are out of BEC (I hope you do asap as several of my friends stuck there), I'm sure your main issue will be retrogression and not BEC even if there are other people stuck there.
    So lets not divide these communities any more, work together towards common cause that can bring some relief to our brother, sisters and ourselves. We all be benefitted if we all support each other.

    Hope you understand.
    Thanks





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  • pappu
    06-14 08:47 AM
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  • bugmenot
    06-13 02:05 PM
    if Numbersusa is warning its members to call thier senators again and fight the bill its surely coming/come back, theyr always bang on with thier "inside info"





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  • ak27
    12-25 10:07 AM
    Hello Everyone,
    I have created google group for NJ Chapter and there are four members in this group so far. If you can send me your email ID then I will let you join..

    Varsha: I will see if I can change ownership of group to you. It is much easier to communicate through emails then looking at chapter posting..


    Thank you
    ak27



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  • feedfront
    10-21 01:27 PM
    Hi Guys

    At last today is my day.. online status changed to "Card Production Order" :)

    Hope every one will get soon.

    Thanks
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    Can you please post your timeline here?





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  • EB2_Jun03_dude
    04-25 04:52 PM
    Congrats!
    Could you please tell us what those job titles were, starting from the original one?
    Thanks

    The original LC title was 'software engineer',
    first AC21 job: 'Senior Consultant'
    second AC21 Job: 'Senior Developer (AVP)'



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  • lazycis
    12-20 08:49 PM
    Well, I moved a lot since 2001 and I don't know if the IO sent any documents to my previous address. Yes, I have unexpired H1B visa till Oct 2002(I-94 valid until Oct, 2002). In Apr, 2005, I went to Canada for stamping of my new H1B. I again made an appointment in Jan, 2008.

    No worries for you, if you were inadmissible they would not let you back into the country.





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  • SK2007
    09-27 09:03 AM
    While we are trying our best to fix a broken system and brace ourselves, lets take a look at what is happening in other parts of the world.

    European Union is introducing a Blue Card that will allow you to work in any of the EU coountries

    Euro value is rising against dollar

    Opportunities will be on the rise with strengthening the currency.

    Lets run this thread for sharing views, opinions, experiences and anything related to the EU

    Can you also attach the links on information about this blue card, it is something very new to me.



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  • BECsufferer
    02-27 08:10 PM
    Noway it is normal..
    When was the last "normal" economic cycle when so many big banks failed...

    Lehman Brothers were 150 years old bank meaning they say great depression and the world wars and survived all of that.. This time it disappeared one morning.

    Citi, BofA,Wells etc are all in trouble..
    Would you believe Citi stock at 3 Bucks?

    And it all started with Housing.

    House prices never go down! Oh yeah.

    I am tired of listening to depressing economic news and beating dead horse on this forum. I know you are also tired, but trust me this doesn't help anyone. I can say this because I come from area dependent on free-falling auto-industry ... yeah I am from Detroit.

    Times may be tough, but we are making tougher for ourselves by re-hashing these bleak developments. Remember misery attracts misery!





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  • pappu
    03-10 03:55 PM
    I challenge visitors in this forum to make atleast one fix, any small fix by sticking to the point and not beating around the bush and not getting into the shoes of others to paint the whole world problems in this.

    Just stick to one point agenda and deliver it fully..

    1. Recapture Immigrant Visas - to me too big to bite but it is the best
    2. Admin fix to file I485 when date is not current - Helps lot of people who missed July 07 fiasco for various reasons..
    3. Admin fix to revalidate H1B in USA - Stops all the BS about IO at POE killed someone etc..
    4. Accountability of CIS - Make sure they process in FIFO by PD (Damn it, we need to define PD for them :-) )


    Just stick with one damn topic and deliver it. This will help IV get the required attention.

    Need an example, look at FOIA thread, In four days we had people pledging almost 8K.

    We keep doing feasibility discussions within the team and with our advisors before launching a campaign. We did work on some in your list above + more last year and got a couple of successes in return. Admin fix for 2 year EAD, visa recapture bill introduction are some.

    I feel some admin fixes can be possible at this time and some advocacy effort with USCIS can help us get more efficient service. FOIA campaign is a step in that direction. Please support it to make it successful so that we have resources and participation to move forward.



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  • yabadaba
    07-13 05:13 AM
    yep ..thats what shes done/trying to do..claim credit for her "hard hitting" letter.





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  • GCchakravyuh
    09-19 11:13 AM
    First, I would like to congratulate everyone who contributed to the success of the DC rally on Sep 18, 2007...

    I was there and I am proud of our ImmigrationVoice members for this FANTASTIC effort!

    We are just starting and taking baby steps with these kind of activities...So, anything I mention below is not a critic, but a humble feedback/opinion...Please don't get offended.


    1. We must immediately change our name to LegalImmigrationVoice.org( LIV.org)...But still Immigrationvoice.org should work....This should be done ASAP...like within next week...Please conduct a poll for this ASAP.


    2. We must/should always wear formal suits for these kind of rally....this would definitely give us a very high status and definitely there will not be any confusion if the rally is by legal or illegal immigrants. Even if it is hot summer, we must stick to this dress code...


    3. In all the signs we had today, we need to have one line clearly in bold as "Legal Immigrants - LegalImmigrationVoice.com - Faster Green cards for Legal highly skilled Immigrants" - bold and clear..

    Also, all our T-shirts should have
    "Legal Immigrants - LegalImmigrationVoice.com - Faster Green cards for Legal highly skilled Immigrants" in the back

    4. One of the rally participants told me that a guide was telling a tourists bus passengers quote "these folks are illegal immigrants...", the rally participant who heard this went to the guide and explained that we are legal immigrants...if you think the guide is not smart enough to read our signs and understand that we are legal immigrants, read next point...

    5. On the rally route, one gentleman, who was dressed in suit, looked well educated came up to me and asked what we are concerned about...I told him that green card process for Legal Immigrants is taking between 5-10 years and we are requesting to expedite it.....so it is clear that all our signs need this text at the bottom "Legal Immigrants - LegalImmigrationVoice.com - Faster Green cards for Legal highly skilled Immigrants"


    We cannot be perfect the first or second time....Lets learn from this rally....


    A pat in the back to all those who attended the rally....

    Good Luck


    yes this is what has been worrying me, ever since i became member of this esteemed organization. With the illegal immigrants also fighting in the same era, I fear IV is not misunderstood & hence misjudged. Lets really really change the name to LEGAL IMMIGRATION VOICE. That way these desperate, justified efforts will get more coverage. Hope it makes sense to the managers of the IV



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  • user1205
    08-15 05:20 PM
    Well, I mean no offense to anybody but why is EB3 ROW so far back while EB2 India and China are as per June bulletin or better?
    I thought for India the approved cases were 5 times the country quota for 2007? Good for those guys that were approved but I still don't get it why ROW is 2002!



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  • desi3933
    03-09 12:49 PM
    by the way shusterman predicted ROW will retrogress in his blog found at shusterman.com there was also an IV post about this (abbout somethin like shusterman got a call from clinton or something)..........

    so what happened to the quareterly spill over ???????????

    spillover happens only when there are more EB based visas available than the number actually issued in the last quarter,

    People who don't believe the slow movement should get reality check done.





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  • aroranuj
    12-11 07:01 PM
    Here is my receipt number... NRC2008063637

    Lets hope all our efforts help...





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  • godspeed
    06-11 09:40 AM
    and forwarded to 20 of my friends, will follow up with them to send the message





    singhsa3
    03-11 09:32 PM
    Please see the following thread
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    ramus
    07-03 08:41 PM
    Thanks for your contribution..


    In all 400$ to date.



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